As a blogger, there is an ever-present temptation to follow the latest scoop, whatever it is, in a bid to attract more ‘eyeballs’… Inherently, blogging is a populist phenomenon. In that respect, it is not so different from the mainstream media, contrary to what most writers in the local blogosphere might think. If your content is predominantly a game of thrust-and-parry with the ‘MSM’, then you really can’t stand alone, can you?
So, if anything, I shall resist the temptation to follow the herd.
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Let me play devil’s advocate for a while. While I am against s. 377A and the criminalization of homosexual behaviour, many of the arguments marshaled by proponents for repeal are intellectually flabby. People are not fully aware of the moral implications of what they are advocating. So allow me to run through a few of these arguments briefly, and assess their validity.
Relativism: “There is no right and wrong, nor such a thing as an ‘objective’ truth; hence, we should not legislate against homosexuality.”
The relativist position, fleshed out, usually sounds like this. Everyone has an ‘opinion’, but no opinion is ‘right’. Hence, we ought not to criticize, and we ought not to legislate against something, unless it causes clear harm.
This is very flawed reasoning. In the first place, if there is no proposition that is morally valid, why the “ought” statements above? Strict relativism would mean that you surrender all ammunition to criticize someone else with (except perhaps based on pure deductive logic) — you couldn’t say anything was wrong. So in practice, no one really practises true relativism, and if you claim to be a relativist, you are merely being disingenuous.
Furthermore, note the reference to ‘clear harm’. The self-professed relativist somehow sneaks in the harm principle… isn’t he or she then asserting this to be universally true? More on the harm principle further on.
SCORE: 0 / 10.
Social Morality: “People’s attitudes towards homosexuality are changing, and laws should reflect this change.”
There are a few variations of this argument. One may argue that the opinions of the majority should be determinative. Or one may say that we should take a “reasonable person’s” opinion as representative of the whole society. Or one may talk more vaguely about the ‘views’ of society, an entity distinct from its individual members.
All these variations are erroneous in this important way: they assume that whatever someone thinks is right, is right (the is / ought gap). How does this then differ from a shouting match of who shouts, “I’m right because I think so!!!” the loudest?
Each variation is also vulnerable to strong objections. The first, ‘majoritarianism’, is an uncritical endorsement of a tyranny of the majority. The second is gibberish, until we have decided what exactly makes the reasonable person ‘reasonable’ — a moral evaluation. The third is obscurantist: a ’society’ does not talk, think, speak, or have opinions.
A more refined version of this “social morality” argument actually masquerades as a broader form of the harm principle, incorporating psychological harm — I’ll consider this below.
SCORE: 1 / 10.
Liberty: “We must be left free to conduct our lives the way we wish.”
Such a bare assertion of our ‘inalienable’ liberty is obviously untrue, and is only rhetoric. We accept, we want, our laws to legislate on many things, too numerous to list here. A more nuanced view on liberty would be far more persuasive; as it is, this argument is a house of cards.
SCORE: 0 / 10.
The Right to Privacy: “The law should not interfere in the individual’s affairs.”
Many things occur ‘in private’ that our laws still punish. Homicide may occur within the family home, or at least, away from the public view (in fact, most homicides do), but we still prosecute the offender. The same goes with rape, theft, assault, battery, etc. Simply put, we don’t look at what’s private and what’s public (as if they were a priori concepts), and then legislate only the public realm.
Quite the opposite. We decide what to legislate, and then we call the area which we don’t legislate, the ‘private’ sphere. The ‘privacy’ argument is really parasitic on other arguments, e.g. liberty or equality, that we use at the outset, when deciding which of the individual’s affairs to legislate, and which not to. By itself, it’s quite empty.
SCORE: 2 / 10.
Equality: “Homosexuals are human beings too, just like us.”
Yes, but what does this truism prove? The real question is whether a person’s sexuality is a relevant differentia as far as legal and moral judgment goes. That is, is homosexuality wrong? Or (if the relativist homunculus within you cringes at the previous word) unacceptable?
SCORE: 0 / 10.
NATURE: “Homosexuals can’t choose their sexuality, it’s in their nature; therefore, we can’t punish them.”
The same might be argued (and has been argued, countless times over) on behalf of serial killers, serial rapists, child molesters, terrorists, mafioso, football hooligans, and ugly Singaporeans. How does the lack of prior choice absolve someone of responsibility, or of getting one’s comeuppance, if there is one to be had? The point remains that, if to some extent you chose your acts, then you are morally responsible for them.
Second, the first proposition above is still scientifically controversial. The (admittedly sparse) reports of “reformed” ex-homosexuals suggest that it may be possible to change one’s sexual orientation — with a lot of time, nervous energy and stress, of course.
Third, and most significantly, how does the “no choice” argument strengthen the pro-gay camp at all? Choice or no choice, the point should be that homosexuality is not morally wrong (by whichever yardstick you choose). This argument is thus at best a red herring.
SCORE: 1 / 10.
Positivism: “The law should not be concerned with morality.”
Ah ha, someone who knows a bit of legal theory, a bit of HLA Hart, and wants to flaunt it. Well, here’s the bad news: legal positivism does not support the above stance.
There is a distinction between legal positivism as a semantic view, and as a normative view. Only the first is defensible: for the purposes of academic clarity, we may want to keep a firm distinction between law and morality, so that we know what the law is as a matter of social fact.
But we cannot then use legal positivism in a prescriptive way. Since legal positivism begins by stripping away all normativity, it forfeits the chance to make any normative claim. A statement like, “the law should not follow morality” is patently a normative claim which legal positivism itself does not support.
And if you insist that one is still able to make certain normative / evaluative statements about the law (e.g. s. 377A is discriminatory, and ought to be repealed), then what you’re really relying on another kind of legal theory (not legal positivism) to buttress those statements.
Furthermore, legal positivism is often paired up with the harm principle: “Laws should not follow morality, but should instead only prevent harm.” As I show below, however, Mill’s maxim is itself built on a moral theory. Any hope that our laws can be “neutral” is thus chimerical.
SCORE: 3 / 10.
The Harm Principle: “Where acts of intimacy occur privately between 2 consenting adults, in a way which harms no one, the law should not interfere.”
Many strands of thought are actually interwoven into this argument. The undercurrent is basically one favouring liberty. Then we’ve a reference to acts occurring ‘privately’; presumably, they don’t cause public offense. Finally, there is the reference to harm, and the need to protect against it.
Let’s look at the last 2 ideas a little more closely.
The ‘public offense’ argument is very suspect, simply because a puritanical, uptight public may still take offense at the very thought of gays and lesbians having sexual intercourse in their own bedrooms. Indeed, many who want to keep s. 377A probably feel this way. To rescue this argument, we must look again to the hypothetical ‘reasonable person’ with some mental fortitude. Again, we left wondering, “What precisely is meant by ‘reasonable’?” Until we figure this out, the fate of the ‘public offense’ argument is indeterminate.
Now, the good ol’ harm principle itself: don’t legislate unless there is clear and present harm. It’s convenient to restrict our definition to just physical harm, but medical science suggests that the causing of serious psychological harm should also be deemed unacceptable. So we’re thrown back to the possibility of ‘public offense’.
The million-dollar question is where we ought to draw the line. If there are people (as there conceivably might) who would suffer considerable distress at the thought of ‘alternative lifestyles’ being accepted, or at least, not being punished, ought the law to protect them?
Finally, the harm principle is sometimes packaged as a ‘non-moral’ or ‘neutral’ standard, something which everyone should be able to agree on regardless of their personal convictions. Well, this is only partially true. Everyone can of course agree that we should not cause harm, but this is hopelessly abstract. When it comes down to deciding what qualifies as ‘harm’, or who or what can be ‘harmed’, pandemonium breaks out, because that’s where the superficial consensus crumbles, and moral disagreement is exposed.
Nevertheless, the ‘harm principle’ does go some way in defence of the pro-gay camp.
SCORE: 5 / 10.
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Those were some of the arguments. I might pick this up again at a later date, and possibly articulate those arguments which I think are more persuasive than those I’ve set out already.
I’m actually rather appalled at the quality of what I’ve been writing… not because I don’t think my arguments are valid, but because I’m not using the appropriate terminology, making the relevant citations etc. I’m in a distinctly unphilosophical cast of mind though (unusually for me), unfortunately.
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Excellent analysis! Kudos to you. Looking forward to part 2.
I guess most of what is written above canbe considered reasonable.
Perhaps one possible reason for de-ciminalising homosexual acts is that is it not deviant and is in no way considered gross indency unless it is abusive, amounting molest, rape and outrage of modesty. In any case, this is covered under all other abusive sexual acts.
Hi,
a few things need to be nitpicked. You delegitimise how changes in peoples’ attitudes towards homosexuality can mean that homosexuality ought to be condoned. Fair and good. But then the sole objection to homosexual behaviour here seems to be that a lot of people think that it is immoral. (ie you admit that there is no clear and present danger involved.)
Therefore when people think that homosexuality is wrong, they are upholding moral values, but when people think that it is right, it is only an opinion and a recourse to relativism?
Maybe the law has the recourse to the “reasonable person”. You may think that this is nebulous, but I don’t think so at all. I think it is almost the same as the social morality argument: that prevailing opinions trump written words. This is about right: democracy IS the tyranny of the majority. Dead words should never be allowed to decide the fate of live people without live opinions interpreting them.
When we assert that the existence of homosexuals cause psychological distress to the population, and are therefore guilty of causing harm, you harken back to an older age where people were afraid that black men would have babies with white women, and that qualified as psychological distress. Now this view has been completely discredited today. So this disguises a circular logic:
homosexuality is wrong
=>
the thought of homosexual behaviour causes psychological distress
=>
homosexuality is harmful
=>
homosexuality is wrong
Or I will give another example. When a child is taught sex education, at some point he will realise that the necessary condition for his existence on earth is that his mother and his father had sex. Now this is a potentially traumatising. Should we abolish sex education? No. It’s for the child to grow up and get over it, which is the same message I will have for homophobes.
The harm principle is abstract, but still infinitely more concrete than morals. In fact I am very suspicious of “moral standards” which do not base itself on the principle of harm. If you look at Nazi propoganda, you will realise that it is full of moralistic thinking. Morals are something that is very abstract and should be founded on the rock of what is practiced, what is harmful, etc etc. And when arguing about harm exposes many differences between the moral standards of people, that is merely how things should be, that through deconstructing them, we understand our morals more clearly.
I will agree with you that the harm principle is the strongest of the arguments presented so far, and is usually the one that I would use when debating.
Hi sieteocho,
You’ve pre-empted some of the points I’m planning to make in Part 2. The basic thrust of my criticisms in the post above was that, whether you’re for or against homosexuality, you’re advocating a moral position. The harm principle is not a neutral idea, as libertarians sometimes make it out to be: it’s an expression of certain deeply held values which we should explore a little more closely.
Also, despite my criticisms and despite the so-so score I give it (5/10), I do think the harm principle is a very strong argument, especially when used in its proper context. The all-round low scores I give merely reflect an open, skeptical mind, a trait which I’m sure you and many other anti-s. 377A proponents share.
And skepticism (even towards one’s own convictions) is what distinguishes the liberal from the fundamentalist homophobe who would be inclined to give his or her argument a 10/10.
Very insightful post, but I have rarely come across pro-gay people who have made these arguments in the form that you’ve described. In fact I think it is the people from the anti-gay camp that frame arguments in this form, claiming in so doing to describe the position of the pro-gay camp. But if pro-gays do make such arguments, let me try offer some possible explanations.
1. “People’s attitudes towards homosexuality are changing, and laws should reflect this change.”
I think this argument is a response to an anti-gay argument which runs like this: most Singaporeans are conservative and don’t like homosexuality; democracy requires that the law represent the majority view; therefore homosexual acts must be criminalised.
Pro-gays can attack this argument on two fronts: (1) by arguing that there is no ‘conservative majority’ and that the people who disapprove of homosexuality form a minority; or (2) democracy does not require that the law in all cases represent the moral views of the majority.
While the pro-gay democracy argument in (2) might actually be workable (Dworkin demonstrates in Sovereign Virtue), that argument is, I think, one that is complex and that not many people might be able to deploy. It is thus by far easier for pro-gays to attack using (1): that anti-gays form a minority.
2. “Homosexuals can’t choose their sexuality, it’s in their nature; therefore, we can’t punish them.”
This is an argument that may or may not be relevant to 377A, but I think it assumes a far more important place in the battle that must follow 377A’s repeal: discrimination.
In Dworkinian terminology the argument would run thus: if being gay is not a choice, then it is a consequence of ‘brute luck’ and not ‘option luck’. As a community, we should try to minimise the effects of brute luck so that we can move towards equality of resources, and one way to do this is through anti-discrimination law. Thus I don’t think this argument is really as much of a red herring as you suggest it is.
I think some of the other arguments might also be explained, but I have neither the time nor the energy.
Perhaps another reason for pro-gays to say these unsophisticated things (if they actually do say them) is to use them more as ‘maxims’ or ’short-forms’ to indicate what their views are on groups of underlying issues.
I look forward to Part 2!
Hi MG,
With regard to the first issue, I actually disagree, as a matter of empirical observation, that the pro-gay advocates in Singapore outnumber the conservatives. But your guess is as good as mine, until there’s actually a referendum on the issue.
Even assuming that pro-gay advocates are now the majority, I think a more principled route of attack is (2), which you outlined above. Gays and lesbians recognize that, for a long time, they have been oppressed by the majority. Is it worthwhile, in the name of political expediency, to now gloss over the importance of minority rights? Maybe it is — I’m just pointing out the moral sacrifice which must be made.
On to your defence of the ‘equality’ argument… The problem is that even before we determine whether a particular outcome results from ‘brute luck’ or ‘option luck’, we make an evaluation, at the outset, that something is or is not acceptable. Otherwise, pedophiles and serial killers may also seek anti-discrimination laws!
A more specific objection I have is that Dworkin’s arguments have to do with resource distribution. This seems quite irrelevant to s. 377A per se, because opportunities for intimate behaviour are not really a ‘resource’ that can be apportioned in a particular way! The more useful argument, to me, would start, not from equality as a premise, but from liberty.
I agree with your response – I don’t claim that pro-gays outnumber anti-gays either (but jury is still out on this); I was merely trying to explain what others might think. Also agree with you that (2) is the “more principled route of attack”.
As to anti-discrimination laws, well again I was just attempting to highlight the issues that lie beneath. Any attempt at creating anti-discrimination legislation must of course consider whether the discrimination in question is legitimate or illegitimate, as you seem to allude to by referring to serial killers and pedophiles. But I assume that if 377A is repealed, then there will be less of a question as to whether the discrimination is legitimate, and of course anti-discrimination legislation will include some kind of ‘bona fide occupational qualification’-type clause.
Also, I didn’t use Dworkin’s resource argument in a 377A context! Haha. I meant it in terms of anti-discrimination law, by which I mean things like attempting to provide equal opportunities in employment, etc. Surely these have some bearing on resource distribution, no?
It is, however, possible that Dworkin might actually endorse the resource argument in a 377A context, because he does say that ethical environments will affect economic environments and that therefore we ought to treat them similarly in certain cases, by allowing individual choices to determine the respective environment (in Sovereign Virtue, somewhere). But I’m not sure on this one lahz. Dunno whether he would consider 377A to be part of the “ethical environment” or not.
Maybe I’m talking nonsense. Damn tired.
First it is less accurate to characterise my position as pro-gay – which might imply that I’m actively advocating same sex sex – than it is to call me anti-anti-gay.
There might be a lot of side tracking on this issue, and this is a complicated issue to be sure. People will argue about nature vs nurture, free will vs determinism, it is easy for a lot of people to get confused. That’s why it is important for me to focus on what I would call the main issue: homosexuality is not wrong, not immoral. This is the key point without which all anti-gay arguments would collapse like a house of cards.
It’s true that AAGs like myself would advocate our position as a moral one. That has to be true: how are you going to live your life without morals? It is not atheistic, amoral or anarchistic to be opposed to anti-gay discrimination. It is a moral choice. But yes we are also saying that moral standards still need to be buttressed by arguments from reason, otherwise standards become too arbitrary.
This is not a statement about whether we want to be liberal or not. This is about whether homosexuality is right or wrong.